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	<title>Comments on: First, Getting Rid of the Gatekeeper</title>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like you are such a fantastic resource for your org.  Thanks for the link to Hot Text.  I&#039;ll explore.  BTW, I&#039;ve gotten web writing inspiration from two books by Gerry McGovern:  &quot;Content Critical&quot; and &quot;Killer Web Content&quot;.   The first was introduced to me in a web writing workshop 5-6 years ago.  I&#039;ve used both for the past few years in conversation and small group work.  Good resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like you are such a fantastic resource for your org.  Thanks for the link to Hot Text.  I&#8217;ll explore.  BTW, I&#8217;ve gotten web writing inspiration from two books by Gerry McGovern:  &#8220;Content Critical&#8221; and &#8220;Killer Web Content&#8221;.   The first was introduced to me in a web writing workshop 5-6 years ago.  I&#8217;ve used both for the past few years in conversation and small group work.  Good resources.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments!
&lt;b&gt;Tracy&lt;/b&gt;, I am curious, have you been asked to make that change happen? If so, how are you going about it? Of course it helps the more upper-level buy-in you have. I have been lucky in that both our E.D.s are very smart about tech. (I&#039;ve more had the other problem--having to reign in enthusiasm at times, but that&#039;s another post.)

&lt;b&gt;Jonathan&lt;/b&gt;, I have spent the last few years going over writing-for-the-web skills with our staff.  For the basics, I&#039;ve used an &quot;old&quot; classic book, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webwritingthatworks.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hot Text&lt;/a&gt;. There&#039;s a lot on the web now, too, and I send relevant stuff to my staff to help keep them thinking about how to write better for the web. I have to say, my staff has gotten more and more savvy about it on their own. When you see the difference in open rates in emails written a certain way, it helps the learning process a ton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments!<br />
<b>Tracy</b>, I am curious, have you been asked to make that change happen? If so, how are you going about it? Of course it helps the more upper-level buy-in you have. I have been lucky in that both our E.D.s are very smart about tech. (I&#8217;ve more had the other problem&#8211;having to reign in enthusiasm at times, but that&#8217;s another post.)</p>
<p><b>Jonathan</b>, I have spent the last few years going over writing-for-the-web skills with our staff.  For the basics, I&#8217;ve used an &#8220;old&#8221; classic book, <a href="http://www.webwritingthatworks.com/" rel="nofollow">Hot Text</a>. There&#8217;s a lot on the web now, too, and I send relevant stuff to my staff to help keep them thinking about how to write better for the web. I have to say, my staff has gotten more and more savvy about it on their own. When you see the difference in open rates in emails written a certain way, it helps the learning process a ton.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Green</title>
		<link>http://www.johannabates.com/2008/07/getting-rid-of-the-gatekeeper/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on.  Fact is, web publishing is not that hard anymore.  4th generation web development software (like social tools) and CMS packages make communicating on the web as easy as using (dare I say) MS  Word.

One thing that concerns me is two dimensions beyond mere web publication are style and useability.   There are web reading style givens (e.g.  skmming/scanning, time dimensions) and many useability issues (serifs, contrast).  New authors venturing into webland tend to bring their print baggage.  What happens is, writing and graphical styles almost never transfer well from print.  

This creates another type of vetting:  re-purposing content and web translation.  As techies we can demystify and empower all day.  At the same time we empower clients with technology we need to be empowering them with web realities like writing style and useability guidelines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on.  Fact is, web publishing is not that hard anymore.  4th generation web development software (like social tools) and CMS packages make communicating on the web as easy as using (dare I say) MS  Word.</p>
<p>One thing that concerns me is two dimensions beyond mere web publication are style and useability.   There are web reading style givens (e.g.  skmming/scanning, time dimensions) and many useability issues (serifs, contrast).  New authors venturing into webland tend to bring their print baggage.  What happens is, writing and graphical styles almost never transfer well from print.  </p>
<p>This creates another type of vetting:  re-purposing content and web translation.  As techies we can demystify and empower all day.  At the same time we empower clients with technology we need to be empowering them with web realities like writing style and useability guidelines.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy Zimmerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy Zimmerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this excellent post. I too wonder how other organizations work. We do not have a broad CMS or much of decentralized process for posting to the web. The site was launched by IT before the organization had a communications staff and changing this &quot;process&quot; (as with any change) is not coming easily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this excellent post. I too wonder how other organizations work. We do not have a broad CMS or much of decentralized process for posting to the web. The site was launched by IT before the organization had a communications staff and changing this &#8220;process&#8221; (as with any change) is not coming easily.</p>
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